{"id":1011,"date":"2015-05-10T12:16:53","date_gmt":"2015-05-10T17:16:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?p=1011"},"modified":"2016-01-03T18:40:50","modified_gmt":"2016-01-04T00:40:50","slug":"to-wind-or-not-to-wind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?p=1011","title":{"rendered":"To Wind or Not to Wind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Most elite discus throwers wind the disc as far back as they can at the beginning of the throw. For example&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Sandra Perkovic<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"985\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=985\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1429647865&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;400&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"perk 2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-985\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2-300x224.jpg?resize=403%2C301\" alt=\"perk 2\" width=\"403\" height=\"301\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/perk-2.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 403px) 100vw, 403px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Robert Harting<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"296\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=296\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1391968725&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;800&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.058823529411765&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"harting wind\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-296\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind-300x224.jpg?resize=438%2C326\" alt=\"harting wind\" width=\"438\" height=\"326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/harting-wind.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 438px) 100vw, 438px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Casey Malone<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"300\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=300\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1391975637&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;320&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"malone wind\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-300\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind-300x224.jpg?resize=442%2C330\" alt=\"malone wind\" width=\"442\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/malone-wind.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 442px) 100vw, 442px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Frank Casanas<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"293\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=293\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1392031518&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.041666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"casanas wind\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-293\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1-300x224.jpg?resize=435%2C325\" alt=\"casanas wind\" width=\"435\" height=\"325\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/casanas-wind1.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 435px) 100vw, 435px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Notice that each of these athletes has turned his\/her hips to the right in order to increase the length of their wind.<\/p>\n<p>Why is a long wind desirable? Well, physics says that we can best accelerate an object by applying force over a long path, and an exaggerated wind lengthens the path over which the discus is accelerated.<\/p>\n<p>Also, there seems to be an element of rhythm involved here. Turning the hips to the right before sitting and shifting them back to the left just feels &#8220;right&#8221; to many discus throwers, the same way that rising and settling at the back of the ring as they begin the throw feels &#8220;right&#8221; to glide shot putters.<\/p>\n<p>And feeling relaxed and in rhythm is vital to anyone attempting to throw a discus far.<\/p>\n<p>Also vital, though, is that a discus thrower unwinds successfully.<\/p>\n<p>The thrower must transition from the farthest point of their wind&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"835\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=835\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1420736366&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2015-01-08 16.59.26\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-835\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26-300x224.jpg?resize=441%2C329\" alt=\"2015-01-08 16.59.26\" width=\"441\" height=\"329\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.26.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 441px) 100vw, 441px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;to a position that sets them up for a successful sprint across the ring:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"836\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=836\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1420736383&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2015-01-08 16.59.43\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-836\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43-300x224.jpg?resize=426%2C318\" alt=\"2015-01-08 16.59.43\" width=\"426\" height=\"318\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.43.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 426px) 100vw, 426px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Notice that Sandra has shifted her weight way left while maintaining an upright posture and keeping the disc far behind.<\/p>\n<p>From here she can aggressively run the ring&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"837\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=837\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1420736395&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.85&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.066666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2015-01-08 16.59.55\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-837\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55-300x224.jpg?resize=457%2C341\" alt=\"2015-01-08 16.59.55\" width=\"457\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/2015-01-08-16.59.55.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 457px) 100vw, 457px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;and knock the crap out of it at the front, her tall, perfectly balanced position allowing all of the force she generated during her sprint through the ring to transfer to the implement.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1014\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1014\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPad mini&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1431257231&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;160&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.041666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1524\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1014\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524-300x224.jpg?resize=474%2C354\" alt=\"IMG_1524\" width=\"474\" height=\"354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The question facing those of us who coach young throwers is essentially how best to get them to that strong, tall, balanced finish so beautifully demonstrated by Perkovic.<\/p>\n<p>And grappling with that challenge has lately caused me to question the efficacy of a long wind for young throwers.<\/p>\n<p>Here is one of my guys demonstrating what looks to me like a nice, loose, well-balanced wind:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1012\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1012\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1518\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1012\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518-300x225.png?resize=459%2C344\" alt=\"IMG_1518\" width=\"459\" height=\"344\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1518.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 459px) 100vw, 459px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here he is at the finish of that throw:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1013\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1013\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1519\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1013\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519-300x225.png?resize=474%2C356\" alt=\"IMG_1519\" width=\"474\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1519.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>See the difference in posture between my guy and Perkovic?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1014\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1014\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?fit=2592%2C1936&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2592,1936\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPad mini&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1431257231&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;160&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.041666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1524\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?fit=474%2C354&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1014\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524-300x224.jpg?resize=429%2C320\" alt=\"IMG_1524\" width=\"429\" height=\"320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?resize=1024%2C764&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1524.jpg?w=1422&amp;ssl=1 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 429px) 100vw, 429px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Look at the angle of the spine. My guy is tilted to the left.<\/p>\n<p>Look what that does to the angle of release. Sandra&#8217;s arm is at a 90-degree angle to her torso, and all of her power is being transferred to the discus.<\/p>\n<p>In pulling to the left at release, my guy dissipates whatever force he has developed while running the ring, thus robbing himself of potential distance on the throw.<\/p>\n<p>What does all this have to do with the wind?<\/p>\n<p>In working on this matter with my throwers, I began to suspect that it might be helpful to reduce the throwing movement to its least complicated form.<\/p>\n<p>That meant eliminating the windup and reverse.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a couple of vids of my guys demonstrating what we&#8217;ve been up to:<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"474\" height=\"267\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nIotjBh241g?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"474\" height=\"267\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/kzbGcEMnK2Q?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>To me, they both demonstrate solid, effective finishing positions here. And I know a lot happens between the wind (or the &#8220;no wind&#8221;) and the finish, but so far it seems that eliminating an active wind has helped these guys maintain balance and effective posture throughout the throw.<\/p>\n<p>So can this start&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1019\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1019\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1529\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1019\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529-300x225.png?resize=474%2C356\" alt=\"IMG_1529\" width=\"474\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1529.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;make it more likely that a young thrower will hit this finish&#8230;?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1021\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1021\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1531\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1021\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531-300x225.png?resize=474%2C355\" alt=\"IMG_1531\" width=\"474\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1531.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;this start&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1017\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1017\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1527\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1017\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527-300x225.png?resize=474%2C355\" alt=\"IMG_1527\" width=\"474\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1527.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;help a thrower find this position&#8230;?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1018\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?attachment_id=1018\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1528\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png?fit=474%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1018\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528-300x225.png?resize=474%2C356\" alt=\"IMG_1528\" width=\"474\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mcthrows.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/IMG_1528.png?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>With the help of these hard-working young men (we took about twelve million throws yesterday) I am determined to find out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most elite discus throwers wind the disc as far back as they can at the beginning of the throw. For example&#8230; &#8230;Sandra Perkovic &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230;Robert Harting &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230;Casey Malone &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230;Frank Casanas &nbsp; &nbsp; Notice that each of these athletes has turned his\/her hips to the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?p=1011\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">To Wind or Not to Wind<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1011","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discus"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8knIb-gj","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1011","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1011"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1011\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1011"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1011"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1011"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}