{"id":385,"date":"2014-03-02T06:16:15","date_gmt":"2014-03-02T12:16:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?p=385"},"modified":"2018-07-01T20:36:30","modified_gmt":"2018-07-02T01:36:30","slug":"is-the-rotational-shot-put-technique-the-next-step-forward-for-women-in-this-country-by-john-smith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mcthrows.com\/?p=385","title":{"rendered":"IS THE ROTATIONAL SHOT PUT TECHNIQUE THE NEXT STEP FORWARD FOR WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY? (by John Smith)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the last\u00a0two years, I have been conducting a personal case study involving the glide and rotational techniques performed in shot putting. In this personal study, I took a glider with six years of experience who had thrown 17.23m with the technique, and started working a glide\/spin combo throwing protocol for all implements for entire practices. My findings, after\u00a0thousands of throws, showed that using the spin technique averaged 11-11.5% better than the glides taken during the practice sessions. This led me to strongly believe that women shot putters could once again approach the distances achieved by men in the event. The women of this country will simply have to make the same transition the men\u00a0did roughly twenty years ago.<\/p>\n<p>In the early days, the spin technique emerged when gliders began experimenting with new methods of throwing the shot put. At first, the distance between the two techniques wasn\u2019t great. The majority of throws taken with the spin were the same or no more than\u00a0two feet farther than the glide. Yet, as testing became stronger, throwers became weaker and more guys started playing with the spin. The result of the experimenting with the new technique was that the distance between the two systems started to expand.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, rumors of guys putting\u00a0ten feet on top of their standing throw started to surface, which was very hard to believe at the time. Then the next generation of rotational throwers started talking about their full throw as being 12-14 feet further than their standing throws,\u00a0and ten\u00a0feet on a standing throw became an accepted number.\u00a0 This is significant because the glide in the past required certain qualities to throw 70-73 feet. It mainly demanded a large standing throw because a glider could typically only add 4 to 7 feet on top\u00a0of their\u00a0standing throw, which required a 72-foot glider to have at least a 65-to-68 foot standing throw to attain that distance.\u00a0 Although making a standing throw that great seems hard to believe in this day and age, 65-to-68 foot standing throws were commonplace at the world class level during the 80&#8217;s and\u00a0 early 90&#8217;s. I have not seen an American 65+ standing throw in 20 years.<\/p>\n<p>The influence of steriods on this era were made clear in a report compiled in the former East Germany. Under a state-supported drug regimen, the average male thrower was expected to improve in a\u00a0 four-year time period 2.5m-4m in the shot, 10m-12m in the disc and 6- 10m in the hammer. The women were expected to improve in\u00a0four years 4.5m -5m in the shot, 11-20m in the disc, and 8 &#8211; 15m in the javelin. These are the former DDR numbers whose state-supported system developed and tracked these increases. Therefore, men who threw 62-to-65 foot throws clean could make the jump to 70-73 feet with the glide and become world class throwers within weeks. However, during the 1990\u2019s when testing became better, the big standing throws went away and so did the big gliders in America. This is what happened, and the USA&#8211;maybe unknowingly&#8211; made the adjustment to the spin.<\/p>\n<p>Due to the big standing throws falling about 2-2.5m from what they used to be, the men in this country turned to the rotational method to make up the distance lost. Because of that change, American men broke the 22m-barrier clean, which many people still refused to believe. In my estimation, there have been\u00a0six men to throw over 22m clean in this country with the rotational method. It is safe to say that after the rotational technique evolved\u00a0 in this country, the glide is not what is used to be, even on a world level. All one has to do is look at the amount of world class gliders from the 80&#8217;s and early 90&#8217;s compared to today. The male 70-foot glider is definitely an endangered species&#8211;much like a high jumper still using the western roll was when the flop took over.<\/p>\n<p>Many say this is a different deal with the women, but I say it has not been explored fully enough. The women throw a 4k, so the body weight to implement ratio is much different from the men. However, the standing throw to full throw differential is about the same. Just like the men, 115% on standing throw is considered great gliding. Still, the clean 70-foot throw for women most likely has not been done yet. World class gliding for women takes one of two great physical qualities. These characteristics involve a very big, tall, athletic woman (6&#8217;3&#8243; to 6&#8217;6&#8243; and 220 to 300lbs) or a girl with a golden arm\u00a0 very much like the skinny kid that throws the 95mph fastball. I have seen a couple of golden arms in Terri Cantwell and Michelle Carter in this country. Both these women could stand 59-61 feet without world class strength levels, but\u00a0these athletes are very rare. The only women we should consider for the glide shot technique are these two types of women. If you do not have a big standing throw, you will have a hard time reaching world class female levels in the shot. Now, the question is what do we do with all the women that don\u2019t have huge standing throws or huge levers and mass? Make spinners out of them. Jill Camarena\u00a0 made the change from a 59-foot glider to a 66-foot spinner. Jill was the one thrower that made me take a very serious look into women with rotational technique.<\/p>\n<p>All it will take is 1000\u2019s of girls working at it from a young age, and it will happen. If guys can go 12-15 feet on standing throw, there is no valid reason why women can\u2019t do this also. It\u2019s just going to take one girl to break through like the men did years ago. The first step to this process is getting high school girls throwing a 3k shot to develop the CNS pathways to throw a shot\u00a0 far. Training for the 3k would require work with a 2k, which would also further teach our girls how to throw something far.\u00a0 So when the young girls are ready step up to the 4k, it\u2019s just a matter of building physical and specific strength through lifting and throwing\u00a0 heavy implements before they are able to match the collegiate men. We need high school girls throwing 20m with the 3k. The more girls that can accomplish this, the more likely we will produce better marks at the next level.<\/p>\n<p>The main concern with the execution of this theory would be establishing a throwing system that teaches high school coaches how to coach and teach the rotational method before the girls reach the college ranks. Then the\u00a0 cream will rise to the top and a 70-footer will emerge years later from the system.<\/p>\n<p>With the rotational shot technique, women should follow what the men have accomplished with the spin in the last 20 years. The glide for the men in this country has became obsolete with the explosion of male rotational throwers\u00a0who reach &#8220;drug era&#8221; distances without using drugs. The same will happen for the women if the necessary steps are taken. I am convinced that a 21m throw could spring out of the hands of a female spin shot putter someday in this decade. Who will be the first is an unknown at this point, but it can be done.<\/p>\n<p>Make no mistake about it, and as much as the Europeans like to point to one or two guys throwing far with the glide,\u00a0our NCAA\u00a0system produces 19m, 20m, 21m throwers like a machine. This we are doing right; however, my next article will be on what we are not doing and need to do in the disc. How to make up those 80&#8217;s and early 90&#8217;s discus differentials.<\/p>\n<p>John Smith<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the last\u00a0two years, I have been conducting a personal case study involving the glide and rotational techniques performed in shot putting. 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